I note you said you went there on you bicycle and found a few bits of twisted metal. GB445558329. Move on, Davey-Boy! It came down at Bletchinglye Farm, Rotherfield, East Sussex after the controversial raid on Croydon (attacked in error thinking it was Kenley and against Hitlers orders of hitting civilian targets) To make matters worse the RAF had scrambled Sqns waiting for them so in their efforts to hit and run most bombs and damage was inflicted on outlying civilian factories causing many deaths for the loss of 6no. Indonesian forestry workers found the crash site in Papua in 2018. The pilot, Ltn Klaus Conrad, ordered his crew to bail out, and he stayed at the helm and managed to crash land the aircraft on the golf course. Thank you very much for that! A Bf109 at Knowle Farm on 9/9/40. I googled the werk nummer but nothing leapt out. The vineyard is I assume doing fine although I have my doubts about English wines future (lots of greedy businessmen out for a quick buck flooding the market) the magnificent 7 will clean up (Chapel Down, Denbies etc) but I take issue with Rathfinnys attempt to own and make Sussex wine a PDO (Protected Designation of Origin), a bit like classing wines from Champagne as Champagne as oppose Sparkling from other regions etc. But wonder if the claim to document every Luftwaffe crash in the UK is valid? I would love to see some pics of it. I found Petersens Cannock Chase record but dont know anything about the rest of his crew. north carolina discovery objections / jacoby ellsbury house All military aircraft crash sites in the United Kingdom, its territorial waters, or British aircraft in international waters, are controlled by the Protection of Military Remains Act 1986. Cheers It's estimated there are between 500 and 600 crash sites across PNG from World War II, but the locations of many of them remain unknown. My mother told me when I was a child that when I was born in Farnborough Hospital 26th August 1942 a doodlebug either hit the hospital or exploded nearby. Many thanks. 4 crew bailed out landed on Cradle Hill part of Hindover Hill on Alfriston Seaford Road. After all, we had just been through a world war! My father used to tell me of a German fighter coming down! We are researching local history for the village. We are keeping him engaged as best we can during these COVID times and associated restrictions on visiting whilst trying to keep our elders safe. Will reply as soon as poss. I doubt it helps any but you can see if you wish. Wonder if anyone can help with this. Lund of 611 Squadron during combat at 14.45. I have strong circumstantial evidence he was actually in the Auxiliary Home Guard. Simon, the article I read about the widow of that German pilot was in the Eastbourne Herald newspaper, I think. I will search to see if I can find any photos of the crew. Interestingly he remembers when the site was cleared they failed to remove both engines which sunk in the mud. Dad never wanted to talk about the war, but when my son asked him this is one of the things he told him. On page 617 there is a written passage to be found on the pages next to the pictures on previous page page 614 shows the funeral that took place after the pilot was brought up and buried In 1977. Ray Hill. Best regards Keith. My other purchase is crashed parts of a Messershmitt BF109E5/JG26, flown by Uffz Wemhoner and shot down over Folkestone,Kent, the plane crashed at Tappington Hall farm, Denton, Kent, does anyone have any information on this ? He served in the BEF the Royal Engineers blowing up bridges during the retreat to Dunkirk. A very flat meandering plain with the requisite pillboxes and dragons teeth it was a potential landing site for a German Invasion as armour would be able to move inland. They scavenged souvenirs (perhaps on their way to school, most likely) from the crash site before local authorities could seal it off. One thing that puzzled me about the Do-17Z-2 that was brought down by that bizarre parachute-cable-rocket airfield-defense gadget during the Aug. 18/1940 Kenley raid, was that a Cannock Chase grave stone shows the names of both the pilot (Johannes Petersen) and the observer/occasional pilot (Dr. Sommer, a Party member) buried together. A Heinkel He-111 was seen over Alfriston on 10 April 1941. You have to wonder how many wrecks will just never be discovered, particularly those that lie under water. Chartham cemetery also contained the grave of A Hoffman, Luftwaffe, killed 15 September, so it was used for Luftwaffe burials, but there was an Alfred Hoffman and also an Andreas Hoffman both killed on 15 September and I dont know which one was in Chartham before Cannock. 7/JG3 3+1 Kingsdown Sth of Deal pilot Uff Karl Elbing Cannot see anything in Volume 1 either. I'd leave the trowel at home if I were you. Parker says the unit was identified from an ID disc and that the remains of the airmen are reported to have been removed from the site of the crash immediately after the event, but their subsequent fate is an enduring mystery. Also mentions the monument erected in 1951. We used old photos from newspapers to help pinpoint the location of a Luftwaffe crash site on the east coast of Yorkshire last year. Some of the confusion re; identifying this aircraft appears to be with the code, which Parker gives as U5+ET. Also I think that no deliberate effort should be made to find his remains however if they are found they should be removed and given a proper burial and or a memorial with a service placed on the crash site. A memorial plaque dedicated to the crew and civilians who died when a World War II aircraft crashed into houses in a Kent town has been unveiled. Unteroffizier Rudolf Schulze, and I know the exact location and even after all these years you can still smell the fuel in the soil. I have looked at the maps again Gerald. But if you know it came in over your house, I suspect you have already looked. So wonder if you might be able to assist. and again I would love to find out more although as it blew up mid flight the debris landed all over the place with no discernible crater I suspect. Im struggling. Simon. Ian. Does anyone have any information and/or a photo of The Dornier Do 17Z (2504) which crashed at Hurst Green in Surrey on August 18th 1940. A single seat FW190 crashed much nearer at Jevington on 7 Dec 1942 but that would be a single crewman. was flattened one night.He remembers collecting bits of metal possibly shrapnel from the streets around for days afterwards) Many thanks John, Hi John, I will take a look in the books I have and get back to you. However, I cannot find on the map anywhere close to Kilndown called Nine Acre wood, the nearest being a couple of miles to the north, south of Hazel Street. I did wonder if stories might be getting mixed up over time? To the families of the pilots, these crash sites are sacred ground, Wadley says. [ Via] Military aircraft crash sites are more than collections of surface or buried artefacts, they can also be war graves, and may contain live ordnance. We hit the M25 at rush hour on a Friday evening. There are plans to recover the plane and the bodies in 2012. Living in Croydon I also regularly saw Palace (even play Bury which I vowed never to do again because of split loyalties) but I havent been to see them either since moving to Rotherfield, ironic since they are currently enjoying their most successful season ever. Ian. Hope this helps. I note you have referred to Parker yourself, but am not sure if you have a copy of the book you may know all this already so apologies if there is nothing new here for you. Treat them like a cemetery. Snake Den Ridge Trail, Great Smoky Mountains National Park, Tenn. No problem Stuart. Four of the crew from the bomber later met up with Wing Commander Peter Ayerst in 1988. As mentioned in email, there is one internet source with a similar photo which states this was probably taken around early November 1940 at Botwell Green and that it is a He-111 (which it clearly is) that had been shot down and put on display. There was one survivor, Uffz J. Sehrt. Heritage Apprentices in a training session on the Researching The Historic Environment module and training in Architectural Photography. Do let me know. However, the report I have also notes that the bomber was heading for RAF Brize Norton, Oxfordshire, but was attacked by two fighters (another report specifies Hurricanes of 17 Sqn) ..and hit by AA fire. I have in the past approved a comment telling the person I will get back to them when I get chance only to forget all about it, so not approving a comment is just like having an email marked as unread; I know I need to do something with it! She said the broken plane was taken away on lorries. It was quite successful: 10 Hurricanes destroyed, including 2 shot down; hangars damaged; airfield OOA for 2 hours. remembered something about the crash of a German aircraft in the area, but nothing more than that. The crew had taken off from Laon aerodrome In France at approximately 09.40hrs, and had been briefed to attack Reading. But please ask him if this one sounds like the incident he recalled? The area was langdon hills laindon. Post author: Post published: March 25, 2023 Post category: woodside golf club membership fees Post comments: coastal carolina football camp 2022 coastal carolina football camp 2022 For example, an RAF Hurricane crashed close by on 9 September 1940, though Polish pilot survived that one. I was also wondering if the crosses David saw were to PoWs who had died, but unlikely PoWS would have been so close to the south coast. Anthony. As to other sites of interest it's an area of the Country that remains largely undiscovered to me but threads on here have revealed a few places I would definitely like to visit: Battle of Britain Monument (Capel le Ferne). Have a copy of Luftwaffe crash archive vol 2 if you need more. Re; the wreckage, it would be good for it to be in a museum. Hi Steve, without looking in detail, I havent anything more than Parkers entry in Luftwaffe Crash Archive Vol 2 do you already have a copy of this book? hanging from the bushes. Thats interesting about the widow. Downland is considered sacred in a secular sense, so it is unlikely that the authorities would have opened up an ad hoc cemetery on the Downs nearer the coastline for enemy dead. Is there anything in Vol 2 Luftwaffe crash Archives or elsewhere in your records that ties in with anything of this? For a decade, Simon, it occurred to me that, if Litlington Parish records are separately identified in The Keeparchive that is mentioned in his reply, since Litlington is such a small parish, it might not be too hard to single out those German interments. I live in the USA these days but my hometown was Eastbourne, which got badly damaged by bombing. Hello On the first pass, the Guardroom, the Sergents Mess and the Airmens block sustained damage, but no lives were lost. My dear old dad, now in his late eighties, is battling dementia. Interesting to read of your dads memories of this crash. 1944 would fit with what I remember being told; apparently the airman seemed just glad to be alive and out of the war. Will come back with more memories later. Lamberti, Feldwebelz Raab. I now live in Sydney. I shall take a look Adam, might be a week or so before am able to though, not at home at present. The German bomber crew were captured and held as POWs until their release and return to Germany at the end of the war. The seller advised that his friends father had been a boy in 1940 & had probably scrounged the part after the crash. Regards to your Dad. While living in Kent I got to know an ex Coldstream Guards officer who had been posted to Berlin shortly after Germanys surrender. Great website. We speculated that it might have been from a self-sealing fuel tank but who knows! Photo of Ray at the crash site on the anniversary of ther air crash 02 September 2020. Where there is a probability of finding live ordance or human remains, permission may not be granted, so it could have been an unauthorised dig. A second request concerns a crash site perhaps 1 miles away at Old Surrey Hall quite close to East Grinstead where a Lancaster crashed. I have a couple of photos from a book which I can share with you, plus some details of the crew and their mission and the crash if it sounds like the right one? Will save me trawling through numerous volumes of books if you have. It is always a pleasure to hear accounts such as yours Ray, thank you for adding your mothers story. Sorry I replied to you by mistake. Thank you so much. Explore the many ways you can help to support the incredibly rich and varied heritage. Mrs Kelly, wife of Private Kelly of the Royal Sussex Regiment proudly brought into the Gazette Office on Monday an official note from her husbands commanding officer, personally congratulating him and Private Perkins, on being instrumental in bringing down a Junkers 88 on August 21st. One crewman, wireless op Gefr Adolf Wibel was found dead some distance away at Grandturzel Farm, Burwash (TN19 7DE), it was his parachute that had been damaged. My grandfather retired RSM Royal Garrison Artillery rounded up 3 crew members who landed safely. Obelt. Fatally disabled and with no landing gear deployed the Heinkel and Spitfire passed low over the heads of spectators standing on Salisbury Street, in Shotton, Deeside. During the war my dad was evacuated from Liverpool (Anfield) to Wales as a seven year old. As a kid i lived very close to Kenley, most weekends me and a mate would go and search up there, lots of bullets etc were found up there. 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